Monday, August 3, 2009

Why does prayer not have any affect on the outcome of events?

people study this stuff constantly, and prayer has no effect on the results, so why do god people still think it is effective? They say faith and god is mysterious and other excuses why god makes no sense. or maybe we just don't understand. So then god created a flawed being with intelligence to understand his world, but planted evidence to point to his non existence and decided to burn everyone who believed in the evidence he left for us and reward those who throw his gift of reasoning out the window and accept fairy tales as fact? Before you say that there is evidence of god, Know that there is not. It has been fabricated by those who wish to push there own agenda. Probably to get rich.Everything that is wrong in the world today, and through out history comes down to idiotic, blind beliefs in magical people who will reward/punish you. Why can't we get past this crap? Maybe after another 100 years of intelectual stagnance like the dark ages? **** but you god morons piss me off.

Why does prayer not have any affect on the outcome of events?
you have some serious anger issues I think you need to see a therapist about.
Reply:What you say makes absolutely no sense? Clearly you do not believe in god. Fine. Commenting on things such as that would take time and patience. Which cannot be easily nor effectively conveyed over an webpage. In order to understand thing like that it takes time to understand things fully.
Reply:A hundred people could tell me prayer has no effect and I would say, "really"? It would not change my opinion at all. I have seen my prayers answered. That is all the "proof" I will ever need.
Reply:cant say i hate to break it down for u, but there is evidence that God exists. prayer works too and patience is a virtue.
Reply:I would wager that any believer would state that it does, and rationalize any possible 'response' to their prayers as such. Doesn't matter if they get what they prayed for or not, there's no such thing as a failed prayer to them. If you get what you pray for, it's god's will! If you don't get what you pray for, it's god's will too! No matter what, god 'answers' one's prayers, because any and all results are interpreted as a response.





Great logic, eh?








ADDENDUM: You know, phrases like "you god morons" make you look like just as much of a dick as the people who're always telling me that I'm going to burn in their hell.
Reply:It does if you pray in the name of Jesus and live a life that pleases God.
Reply:Because prayer is another man made action of a waste of time.
Reply:Nothing fails like prayer.
Reply:who says that prayer doesn't have any affect on the outcome of events. i'll bet someone's prayers were answered. sometimes we might not like the way it was answered, but in the long run learn the wisdom of not getting the answer right away.
Reply:You have a right to believe that there is no God. But you have no proof.


As for prayer, I have seen prayer have an affect and a change on things. But you would only say there was no proof. But I don't need your approval to pray or believe in prayer.


You should state this question as your opinion, because you don't have any proof to back you up that has not been tried before. Just because you have never seen prayer have an affect on something, doesn't mean it hasn't. So again it is just your opinion. You are not an authority on whether prayer is effective or not. Why can't YOU get past it. Why does it bother you so much. If you don't believe, that is fine, your choice, but it could only make you pissed off if you had hidden feelings concerning prayer. Like maybe one of your prayers did not get answered the way you wanted, so no prayer is right in your eyes. Have a nice evening.
Reply:Okay, so basically the early Christians, a very weak minority, gave up all they had and suffered their entire lives %26amp; died horribly because of something they "made up" to get rich? How about if there were people that predicted several things (while being very specific about some of them) way before they happened and got it all right, that evidence enough?





And do you honestly think prayer is a shopping list? That's not how it works. You can pray for guidance and help, but it doesn't really work for making what you want come true.





And how is everything bad in the world caused by Religion? I guess I gotta blame my church if I get in a car accident or a hurricane comes around.
Reply:Why do you think prayer has no effect. Just because it's not the effect you want or expect doesn't mean prayer was not answered.





The only question to be answered here is this:





Jesus Christ, born of a virgin, died on the cross to save us from our sin, rose the third day to conquer death for us, ascended to heaven to prepare a place for us, and is coming back to get all who believe this.


Will you believe this?


Would you like to go with Jesus when He returns?
Reply:False hope is a followers best friend.
Reply:God is merciful and that is something you will need down the road of life.....
Reply:Where is this evidence of God you speak of? I want to see it!


I would also like to know why you are so "pissed off!" as you put it. Does it mean you are extremely angry? Why would that be? How can what a group of us Mormons (Or did you say morons?) believe possibly make you angry? Is it that we insist that there is only one God and only one son of God, through which you must be saved?


This is meant as good news, Happy news, news to be celebrated! It´s the message of How God loves us so much he will...


But you've heard all this haven't you.


How could that possibly make a person unhappy and even angry to the point of killing? I'm not referring to you in that, but that is what has happened to people of faith through out history.


Could it be that there is something heaver behind all this?


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, That's impossible!





But then again, unless you know everything there is to know... Do you?





Just funnin wit ya?





Have a great eve.


Gypsy Priest
Reply:Prayers do get answered,


Prayer heals,


Prayer changes lives,


Prayer lifts us up, as it is communing with our Lord %26amp; Savior,


Prayers are the path to wisdom %26amp; knowledge,


Selfish Prayer is often answered with a negative, as is rightfully deserved.



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