Sunday, April 19, 2009

Is Tobi of the Akatsuki the same with obito uchiha , the late team mate of kakashi??

Obito’s Connection with Tobi


There are many speculations that say that Obito survived, and that, years later, became the called Akatsuki Tobi. The Akatsuki, aside from having a name similarity very, is tardón, chillón, has the black hair and it needs the left eye. Everything agrees whereupon it is Obito. Although nothing is safe.


Obito Uchiha has been speculated on follows alive and that is Tobi the member of Akatsuki, not only by its black hair or its character, but by the form in which their names are written: Obito is written, reason why if the katakana is eliminated? and the order changes would have Tobi. The mask that only takes has a hole in the right part, which agrees with the aspect of Obito if it had survived, since the one was its left eye that it gave to Kakashi. It is to also notice that it appears like subordinate of Zetsu, original of the Country of the Grass, that is the place where it occurred him by dead. The revealed thing in chapter 364 seems to deny this, because Tobi is called to itself like Madara Uchiha, although also can be that it was lying.


WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS BELLOW


like i said this will prove a whole lot more it wouldn%26#039;t come pare to the other onezs you have read! or your money back! lol jk





look and read the movie in the memo


to understant the rest of this quiz!





this its what others have to say to that video!





2. In the latest chapter of the naruto manga tobi met up with naruto and kakashi and right after the battle of juriah(I know i can%26#039;t spell) zetsu said to pein that he didnt want to stick around cause it seemed that a more interesting battle was about to throwdown. he could have been refering to saskue%26#039;s and itachi but I%26#039;m sure he was refering to if kakashi would reconize him under that mask.


comment on my theory on what you think





these are my theories, why he might be Obito.


1. It%26#039;s a possibility that Zutsu was around the premise during the final countdown of Obito death and he saved him foe his own reasons.





mmm i think that we%26#039;ll know who tobi is when the time comes...besides does itachi knows about his identity.. i mean he%26#039;s always using the sharingan isn%26#039;t he?





look *** holes obito is tobi because i ve seen the episodes that arnt even out yet but you have to pay secretely after kakashi leaves obito while pein is going pass he notices obito and takes hime with him thats why u ll see later on shippuuden kakashi and obito (tobi) actually have a fight and he takes his mask off!





theres so much proof he isnt to u see cause if u notice something tobis bolts r on his left side but obitos right side got crushed BUT obitos mask is on the eye on the right and obitos sharingan was on his right side soo there r so many possibilites i personally think that obito is tobi but u need to know 4 sure and not run to conclusions





tobi is obito look at the name take out the o in obito and arange the letters





i agree tobi is uchiha madara. its like this from the generation of obito, madara uchiha is still alive. uchiha madara did the soul transfer technique to the body of obito. why obito? because no one else has the sharingan eye and the bloodline limit except for obito. and if there are any uchiha still alive within the area they will not give there body to uchiha madara. reply lang sa comment ko.





its very clear that tobi cant be madara because 1 madara Disappeared and was never found for like 100 years. so madara is dead. And the akatski is known 4 fighing kages and finding ppl like sasori killed the kazagae.They probably found marada body and found obtios body. give obito maradas powers and now he has a split personlity cuz of that





sucsefully leak chakara from the kyubi madara was realeased and he had formed chakras body transfer jutsu but could only transfer into the uchiha pure bloodline which was obito because after obitos generation the uchiha bloodline broke up then reformed so obito could not take any of sasukes familys body so obito was the best choice whether the obito tobi spelling was just a coincidence we do not know but tobi is uchiha madara in obitos body.





Here is the lowdown on tobi He is not fully obito You see when madara summoned kyubi kyubi formed a seal with madara for the power so madara never died he was sealed away where his powere had no limits and after naruto was able to





tobi is both madara and obtio. he has an split persoanlity just like zetsu. zetsu knew tobi b4 he was in the akataski.first tobi was goofy then he started being serious.they probably found him give him madaras powers so he can live. since they did that madara and obito been sharing the same body. so sometimes tobi is a little kid sometimes he a grown man. just like zetsu he the black side of his body is always disagreeing with the white part of his body.Also tobi is using obitos body thou





alright this is weird itachi killed all uchihas but it waz to test hes skills and if tobi were to join akatsuki then itachis sharingon has the power to reavil identity%26#039;s to so he could found out who if tobi is obito then itachi would surely kill him cuz he wants to be the only 1 left well also sasuke cuz itachi wants a challenge against sasuke





ACTUALLY. itachi doesnt not wanna be the only uhchia. That has nothing to do wit it. he killed his clan so sasuke could get staronger and get the maygukou. And they need 3ppl wit the mangekyou. itatchi, tobi, and sasuke





Not so sure still.. obitos right eye was crushed, and i don%26#039;t think you can repair the sharinggan in the eye. Tobis sharinggan is in his left eye.. but obito gave his remaining eye to kakashi. Message me if you wanna discuss this further.





look at tobis back hair on 1:08!!! 2 fat lines!!!!


that means 1 of them is obitos gogles!!!





But if it is obito, why would he be on the wrong side? Why doesnt he come back to konoha??? Why is he evil????





I think obito lost his memory...





he did lose his memory I saw a manga picture were Kakashi rips his mask off with his raikiri but I forget were I found it








Me: well i have proof to well if he was medara tobi was partneres with kakashi right? and their sensi was the 4th hokake to be right? so the 2nd and 1st hokage were present at the time right? so their and the 1st fought madara! wait did that prove anything? well basicly (tobi=27 years)(madara=?around 100years) kakashi=27) obito=27years) and if you look hard enough you would find that tobi%26#039;s birthday is feb.2 and so is obitos(what a coincidence) I think not! they are the same person (but why is he so strong?) because he is madara! (confused you said he was obito!) cause he it obito! (confused explain!) yes i will im sure the readers would like to know to! well if you didnt catch that part in the comments if others ubove it said that this whole thing happend(Me:which i havent quite found out yet!)it said that he is madara in obitos boy! but something went wrong thats why he still acts like obito but has the power of a very powerful shinobi!





to conclude


tobi=obito


madara%26#039;s power + obitos persoallity and looks





so tobi is obito


obito has madara%26#039;s power


therefor tobi/obito has the power of the founder of the uchiha clan!


but he looks and acks like obito


Get it!


got it!


Good!


Why Tobi and Obito are one and the same.


Yes, he is. In naruto chapter 364, found on a sight called naruto manga returns, it shows into the hole in Tobi%26#039;s mask. The same hole that Obito%26#039;s non-removed sharingan was. There is a sharingan there. Tobi and Obito both wear black and have the same hair. They both have more of a conscience than most akatsuki members. Akatsuki had Kakuzu who could re-animate boke parts. One theory is that Zetsu found the dying Obito and rescued him. Another is that he some how escaped. Both had a low regard for rules. There is also the name relation. As my final proof I quote chapter 364. This is what Obito/Tobi says: %26quot;The sharingans true power... my power...Uchiha Madara%26#039;s power...%26quot; Next it shows you the picture. You may think that Tobi is Uchiha Madara, but keep in mind that Madara was an extremely powerful ninja that probably lived long ago. Tobi is a strong but not extreme ninja who is theoreticly about kakashi%26#039;s age. This is the proof that Obito and Tobi are the same person.


While reading manga I%26#039;ve noticed some similarities between Tobi and Obito:


1.The same hair


2.the eye(the mask has only one hole for the eye,and this is the left eye,and Obito has only the left eye left)


3.Tobi was brought to Akatsuki by Deidara,who has trained his left eye to counter the Sharingan,this all means that Tobi,the Sharingan owner(if my version Tobi=Obito is right)helped him in it.


So,what do you think?


this is my theory ....


scince jiraya thought that madara is alive and pein called him madara .... then this means he should be madara


but madara should have two sharingans .. and besides he should be like over 100 now .... and sometime tobi acts like obito ... and somtimes he acts like a person who has plans in his mind ....


thats why i think uchiha madara used a jutsu %26quot;similar%26quot; to the jutsu that orochimaru uses and transfered himself to obito ... because he was an uchiha and he had the sharingan ... he was dieing ... and madara was too old ... so he saved himself and obito .... well maybe he didnt really care about saving obito o.0 ... but he was the right choice ... because he had the shringan ....


but ... i think tobi is half madara and half obito ...because the way he acts is kinda wierd .... and when deidara explode right beside him ... i dont think he could survive if he was obtio ... %26quot;alone%26quot; ...


so maybe they did a deal ...madara shared obito%26#039;s body and gave him strength .... :)





:D


Sorry if a thread like this has already been made! I searched for one but I didn%26#039;t find any.





So, does anyone else think Tobi is Obito? Here are a few reasons why I believe that this is true:


The Name





Obito, switch a few letters around and what do ya get? ... Tobi!





Zetsu (Sp?)


Obito was in the rock country when he was crushed. Zetsu hails from the rock country and is supposed to be able to tunnel around underground since he%26#039;s a plant, so, he could have found Obito while he was doing this. This would make sense, and there would be big possibilty of it since Zetsu lived there and probaly would of tunneled around often. Zetsu may have heard fighting going on and gone over to investigate. He may not of wanted to be seen since it was the Third Ninja War, and he would of been attacked. So, he tunneled around underground to not be seen. When he got there, he could have found Obito and saved him. He may of used some sort of Mind-Erasing jutsu to erase Obito%26#039;s memorys so he could train him or use him as a replacement Atasuki member in case one of them died or defected. Or, Obito could have lost most of his memory when the rock hit him. That might be why he hasn%26#039;t mentioned anything about his past.





Tobi%26#039;s Attitude





While most of the Atasuki are really serious and always fighting, Tobi is mostly care-free and goofy. Thus resembling Obito%26#039;s supposed personality.





Tobi%26#039;s Mask


Tobi wears a mask to cover his face. The only thing you can see is his right eye and his hair. Obito gave his left eye to Kakashi before he died, so this could explain why his left eye is covered. But, there is one problem about this theory. Obito%26#039;s right side was crushed by a rock, so his eye probaly would have been crushed too. His eye may not of though. He also has some sort of nail things in his right side, this could be what put him back together.





Tobi%26#039;s Hair


You can%26#039;t base a theory on hair style, but, I thought I would still include it. Also, it%26#039;s the same colour.





If you have any other evidence that this theory is correct, post it here!


Obito Uchiha is supposed to be Tobi from Akatsuki. If Obito is Tobi, then is not deceased, and 26 years old, because he was in the same team with Kakashi Hatake. And if it wasn%26#039;t noticed, Tobi%26#039;s mask covers his left eye, the one he gave Kakashi when he %26quot;died%26quot;. They both like the color orange (the mask is orange and Obito%26#039;s glasses were orange), it wasn%26#039;t written that Obito died, it said he was crushed by a big rock. When Tobi was fighting The 3 Tailed Demon, Tobi ran around screaming. Obito was like that. And, when the rocks crushed Obito, well, Tobi wears some kind of metal armor that is screwed bolted and covers his entire body. They also have the same black spiky Naruto-like hair and they both have the same lovable idiotic tough guy act. 1. Ok there are alot of guys here who thinks that Tobi=Madara, but we all dont know the truth yet but if you will understand carefully what Tobi said in the latest chapter, %26quot;The Sharingan%26#039;s True power, My power.. Uchiha Madara%26#039;s power... If you read carefully, Tobi didnt claim that he is Madara, he is just implying that Madara%26#039;s power should be Tobi%26#039;s and from this point of view, Tobi is clearly claiming for Madara%26#039;s power for whatsoever reason he has. Maybe that reason is the TRUE goal of Akatsuki(more on that later). So Tobi%26#039;s real identity is not Madara, but another Uchiha prodigy lets say Obito. Come on guys, i know you will say OMG u No0b Obito is d3adzors! but did we see him really die and rot in that place? Of course not, maybe he was found by another shinobi who help him survive and nurse him to health. Maybe Pein, BH or even Zetsu?? So if Obito=Tobi how the hell did Tobi knew about Madara%26#039;s existence?





2. Akatsuki%26#039;s True Goal :





Pain told Obito about it, after all Pain is the AL and he mustve known about Madara%26#039;s existance and the Bijuu%26#039;s thats why he is on a conquest to capture all of them for his goals. But the problem is, Pain is not an Uchiha, even if he captures all of the Bijuu he doesnt know if he can acquire Madara%26#039;s power because he doesnt have an Uchiha body?? Thats why seeing Obito as a great opportunity, he revive him and told him about his plans, Madara, etc. etc. and told Obito that they can rule the world together if he would help him. And Obito was amazed about his idealogy and he also wants to become strong, so he agreed to join him on his quest to capture all the Bijuus, resurrect Madara and claim his power, the sharingan to control the bijuu%26#039;s to wage war and world domination. And remember when we first saw Tobi? His body was full of screws, and he looks just like a metal man because lets just say thats how Pain make Obito alive and use his body to walk again (i mean come on, Pain is not Sasori to make his body turn to a puppet, his not Kakuzu that can stitch his body back, nor even Orochimaru who can experiment on his body and regenerate it)and he also wears a mask, and obviously the reason why the mask has only one whole on the right side its because the left eye was given to Kakashi. And Obito decided to let go of his past for his new way of living, so he changed his name to Tobi.





After all was said and done, the 3 move out and start their organization Akatsuki. From here on they are recruiting S-Rank criminal shinobis to help them reach their goal easily, but of course they dont have to trust their new recruits because after all they are criminals too and they can betray them anytime. So Tobi%26#039;s existance were hidden to all of the members except Pain and BH, because if the recruits knew about their real goal, they will betray and kill each other and claim Madara%26#039;s power for their own (especially Itachi)





3. Uchiha Madara%26#039;s identity :





For we all know, Madara is another enigma in the Narutoverse, he was first introduced by Kyuubi whey he had a conversation with Sasuke. Kyuubi told Sasuke that Madara has a chakra more sinister than him, and told about the cursed Sharingan. As if Kyuubi know about Madara personally, maybe they are connected or something like that. Sasuke was surprised and he didnt even know about the guy, so this means Madara could be the very 1st Uchiha, an ancestor or some sort. He could also be the strongest Uchiha ever lived but didnt live long enough for even normal clan members of the Uchiha to know his existance. I also believe that Madara is the very 1st Uchiha to discover, unlock and master the Mangekyou Sharingan. The guy is so talented he can tame and control the Bijuus with just a glance from his eye. With this power, he wage war and use the Bijuu to control some territory and became powerful and created the Uchiha clan, but as time progresses he felt weak. Because we know that over usage of MS could lead to blindness, or even death. When Madara was weak to the extent that he could not use his MS for long periods of time made the Bijuus out of control and killed him. And so the Legend of Madara goes on, and few people knew about it including Pain. But before his death he wrote his secrets including the real purpose of Sharingan, the true power of Sharingan and how to obtain. And all of this was written by Madara in a scroll which he passed on to his clanmates and kept secret because of its evil purpose.





Another interesting fact about Madara%26#039;s existance, is the true secret of the Sharingan. This thing bugged me for quite some time now, remember the Itachi/Sasuke flashback in part I? Itachi told Sasuke about the scroll hidden in a temple which contains the true secret of the Sharingan. Maybe the contents of that scroll was about the real way of obtaining the real form of Sharingan (the MS) and how to use it to control Bijuu%26#039;s, after all the Sharingan is evil and cursed, and that scroll explains that the Uchiha must use their eyes to wage war, etc. etc. I know this sounds funny but its the closest connection with Madara and Akatsuki%26#039;s goal that i could possibly think. And i think that scroll was written by Madara before he died, and pass it on to his clanmates.





4. Uchiha Itachi :





Lets not forget about Itachi, i know he also has an agenda of his own. I think he also knew about Madara%26#039;s existance and the true power of the Sharingan because of the scroll he read in Konoha years ago.. And now he joins Akatsuki to get some information about the Bijuu and of course claim Madara%26#039;s power when the time comes, by possibly betraying AL and his other teammates. But the thing is, he doesnt know that another Uchiha is the one who is pulling all the strings, and he is just another pawn in the game..





5. Kakashi and Obito%26#039;s Sharingan :





Kakashi%26#039;s Sharingan was an important reminder to him that he once had a great friend who changed him the views of being a shinobi. And that man was Obito, Obito gave him his left eye as a remembrance and a parting gift to Kakashi before he died. Now what about it? Kakashi became a great and succesful shinobi thanks to this eye and became famous which earned him the nickname - Copy Ninja Kakashi. Now in part II, Kakashi mysteriously developed the Mangekyou Sharingan. Now we all know he is not of Uchiha Blood nor he killed a close friend. Even Kishi didnt even bother to explain the readers how the hell did he obtained it, maybe for some future plot revelations or some sort. And from the last chapter Tobi was revealed to be another Uchiha (screams Obito!!) and this is another hint that Kishi is giving us that he is possibly Obito.





Now lets discuss Obito, if your read the 1st and 2nd paragraph above you will see how possibly Obito managed to survive, and if its true maybe Obito managed to obtained the MS too, by using the traditional way or maybe he used a different method.. Now why would Kakashi got his MS without sacrificing or killing a close friend?? The answer is Obito! When Obito unlock his MS so did Kakashi, because it was Obito%26#039;s eye after all and their still connected to the real owner (remember this is a fictional manga and everything can happen). And this would also explain why Kakashi%26#039;s MS looked so different than Itachi%26#039;s MS, because Obito is missing his other eye, the Sharingan maybe evolved to something and ended up with a more bad *** looking eye, it even comes with a unique ability

Is Tobi of the Akatsuki the same with obito uchiha , the late team mate of kakashi??
Tobi is uchiha madara and he is the founder on the akatsuki.Madara is the real leader not pein.Madara took the guise of tobi to keep in the shadows of Akatsuki.He acts like tobi to keep his profile low.The only ones that know that tobi is uchiha madara is itachi,konan and zetsu.And the only living member of Akatsuki that doesnt know that is Kisame.As Tobi, Madara has not been seen wearing a forehead protector, probably to seal his identity. Anyway, he already has a mask covering his forehead.
Reply:i think obito is tobi because just before obito died madara could have made a deal with obito and gave him power. also when tobi is fighting kakashis team i think one of them his going to knock his mask off and i think kakashi will see his face thats what i think is going to happen. THE END Report It

Reply:Tobi is Uchiha Madara. In the recent manga, he admits he is Madara.


Also he tells Sasuke about who really Itachi is.


And itachi transfers all his eye techniques to sasuke before he dies.


Sasuke is invincible. Report It

Reply:obito is tobi with no akatsuki coat and madara is tobi with the akatsuki coat.an akatsuki saved obito when the rock fell on him so obito is still alive and now he is an akatsuki and madara is tobi because it says that he is madara uchiha in front of pein(pain,pen,akatsuki leader)and kohona(mystery akatsuki).
Reply:THIS ISN%26#039;T FOR YOUR THEORIES.


Tobi is Madara.


End of story.
Reply:Oh my God!!!!!! I can%26#039;t read all of your writings!!!! Too long!!!!!!!
Reply:Well....... I thought Itachi killed everyone in the Uchiha except for sasuke. I don%26#039;t think Obito is Tobi.
Reply:lolx..so far...people say that tobi = uchiha madara


that %26#039;s all... n your notes are kinda...LONG...
Reply:Too long your note.....I can%26#039;t even read it!But if the title,I have%26#039;d known the answer........The answer is......Tobi is not Obito!!!They%26#039;re different!!!
Reply:here is why Tobi is Madara when Madara was young he and his brother fought all the time. When they learned the M. Sharingan and took over the clan. Madara overused the M. Sharingan and became blind after he stole is brother%26#039;s eyes and gained his sight back and immortality that explains why he never died after the battle with the first hokage. He then created Akatsuki to work in the shadows then using the M. Sharingan summoned the Nine tails to attack the leaf village. Now here is where Tobi comes in he is Madara because he refers to himself as Madara when giving orders to Pain. Now why would he be giving orders to the Akatsuki leader if he isn%26#039;t Madara the true leader?
Reply:It%26#039;s a really long read but I have to agree with your findings. They make sense. I don%26#039;t have much to add to it though...
Reply:cant read all your typings...LOL!!!! sorry...





but most of us thinks that tobi is really uchiha madara...





OMG OBITO IS DEAD!!!
Reply:I understand how you think Tobi is Obito. However Uchiha Madara is the real identity of Tobi.... I think
Reply:Considering the only appearance of Obito is in Kakashi Gaiden, which by definiteion of it%26#039;s name means it%26#039;s not part of the real story, I don%26#039;t soo Obito ever being used.



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