Friday, July 31, 2009

Why do most baptize in Father Son and Holy Ghost When it says be baptized in Jesus name Just seems obvious?

First, because it is apostolic in origin and practice. (Acts 2:38; Acts 4:12; 14-18: Acts 19:1-6) It is agreed by Bible students that the apostles are the founders and the foundation of the Church; Jesus Christ being the chief corner stone. That is to say, their teachings and doctrines are the fundamental principles upon which the church is built. Jesus in the days of His flesh taught His disciples the plan of salvation, opening their understanding and making them to know the mysteries of the Kingdom. He said, Thus it behooved Christ to suffer and to rise, from the dead the third day; and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in HIS NAME. Thus the apostles obeyed the command of Jesus in Luke 24:46-47, where He said that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name, among all nations beginning at Jerusalem. Thus the apostles, in obedience to the command of Jesus, became the originators of baptizing in the name of Jesus Christ. Baptizing in the name of Jesus Christ is apostolic, not in origin only, but in practice, for no other mode of baptism is to be found in the New Testament. Upwards of one hundred years after Pentecost, believers were baptized only in the name Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins. All other modes and methods of baptism have arisen since and not in the days of apostles.





Second reason, Because we are exhorted to believe, to obey and follow the teachings of the apostles, Hebrews 2:1-5; Acts 2:38-43; Col. 2:3-9. Jesus told the apostles, that he rejecteth thee rejecteth me. Moreover, He prayed that we should believe in Him through their, the apostles’ words, St. John 17:20. Paul said in the second chapter of Hebrews, verses 1-5, that we should give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard lest at any time we should let them slip. The gospel that was preached by the apostles was according to the will of God, for God confirmed it with signs and wonders as if to say to us, Amen, follow as they have taught.





The saints on the day of Pentecost set us an example that we should follow in their steps. In the second chapter of Acts, verses 38-43 we read that they who gladly received his word, were baptized and they continued in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship; great fear came upon all the people and many wonders were done by the apostles. Jesus said unto Peter: "Upon this rock I will build My church and the very gates of hell shall not prevail against it"





Third reason- WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE THREE COMMISSIONS CONTRADICT EACH OTHER, Matt 28:19; Luke 24:45-48; Mark 16:15-19. We hold that there is no discrepancy in God’s word, therefore we believe that the three commissions all mean the same thing and all meet their fulfillment in Acts 2:38, where Peter said "Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remissions of sins." All three commissions are given by the same person and all three mean the same thing. Matt 28:19 says, "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost." Notice, He said not baptize them in the Father and Son and Holy Ghost, but in the name of the Father and of the Son and Holy Ghost. What is the name ? And again, He did not say names as if more than one (plural), but NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost in Matt 28:19 and in MY NAME in Mark 16:15-18, and HIS NAME in Luke 24:47 all mean the same name JESUS CHRIST. "For neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12.





Fourth reason- BECAUSE TO PUT ON CHRIST WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN HIS DEATH AND BURIAL, Romans 6:3-6; John 3:5; Acts 2:38. We are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus, for as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Gal. 3:26-27. If the above Scripture is true, then the only way we can put on Christ is to be baptized into Him. Now the above has reference to the baptism of the Spirit which puts you into the spiritual Body of Christ, but pray, how shall we receive the baptism of the spirit? Peter beautifully answered that question on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:38, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost".





We identified ourselves with Christ in His death (Conversion), burial (Baptism -- 3 of water), resurrection (Baptism of the Holy Ghost), Hallelujah! Know ye not that so many of us were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? Therefore we are buried by Baptism onto death. "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death we shall be in the likeness of His resurrection." Romans 6:3-6. The mode of sprinkling people for baptism was never the practice of the apostles and has no foundation in Holy Writ. Jesus said, "Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom." Now to be born of things you must first be conceived, and that which is conceived is covered or hidden. Then to be born of water one must be conceived of water which cannot be unless one is immersed and then born from- Amen.





Fifth reason- BECAUSE WE ARE SAVE BY BELIEVING IN AND ON HIS NAME, I John 2:12; Proverbs 18:10; Acts 4:12. "The name of the Lord is a strong tower; the righteous runneth into it and are safe." I write unto you little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name’s sake. We are saved not because of our righteousness nor praying or faith or works; these are conducive to salvation, but not because of these things we are saved, but for His Name’s sake. From time immemorial God proposed to make for Himself a mighty name. Isa. 64:12, and in our time He has made the name of Jesus high over all the earth, and the sea and sky, yea it is above every name. Today God wants us to exalt the mighty name of Jesus. Whatever we do in word or deed, do it in Jesus’ name.





Sixth reason- FATHER IS NOT A PROPER NAME, NOR SON, NOR HOLY GHOST. Father expresses a relationship, also Son; and the Holy Ghost means the Holy Spirit, but does not mean His name but his nature. Holy is an adjective, meaning more excellence, pure in heart, and Spirit is a noun but not a proper name. So that they who baptize in the formula by saying the following words: "I baptize you in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, do not baptize in any name at all. There are many fathers and sons, but what father and son’s name do they baptize in, seeing they do not designate? For this reason the Lord Jesus told the apostles not to depart out of Jerusalem, but wait for the Spirit of Truth who would lead them into all truth, and bring all things to their remembrance whatsoever He had spoken to them. When the Holy Ghost came of the day of Pentecost He brought to the minds and hearts of the apostles what the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost was; and when the people asked, what shall we do? Peter answered, "Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST,", The Name Jesus Christ is the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Ghost.

Why do most baptize in Father Son and Holy Ghost When it says be baptized in Jesus name Just seems obvious?
This comes from Jesus own words in Matthew 28:18-19:





Then Jesus approached and said to them, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit.





With love in Christ.
Reply:In Matthew 28:19 it says "baptizing them in the NAME of the father, and of the son and of the Holy Ghost" Notice how it is singular and does not say in the names but name. And what is that one name? JESUS is that name! Report It

Reply:Jesus and God(the father) and the Holy Spirit are all the same body...They are but one entity... Report It

Reply:Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? rom 6:3. so if baptized in the name of Jesus Christ then this verse makes since. Report It

Reply:make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit.


What is not being considered is Father, Son, and Holy spirit are all titles when they say the name the bible mean Jesus Report It

Reply:One God, three offices = Jesus





Is Jesus in the Godhead? Or is the Godhead in Jesus?


By Gordon Magee Report It

Reply:couldnt you have just summed all that up in a paragraph? i dont think anyone will read all that
Reply:I read the scriptures to which you referred and you are correct, in the book of Acts the apostles baptized in the name of Jesus. They didn't say "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". A lot of churches do baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit -- BELIEVING that the name into whom they are baptizing is JESUS CHRIST. We believe in his name, and we believe that in baptism we are buried as unto his death and raised again. We believe in the name of Jesus before we are baptized. You must remember the prisoner who was condemned to die and hung on the cross next to Jesus when he asked Christ to come into his heart. He wasn't baptized but the Lord said that he would be with him in paradise. When a person comes to Jesus and is baptized, they believe in His name, and there is no other name into which they are being baptized. I praise Jesus and I thank him for being the Lord of my life. Please don't try to discourage people to make them start doubting into whose name they are being baptized. If they believe in Jesus then it is into his name that they are being baptized.
Reply:The father son and holy ghost, father God Jesus son and the spirit of God holy ghost that's on the earth, the trinity- three sides father son and holy ghost..... you connect with one, you have connected with all three. Jesus in the father and the father in Jesus and the holy spirit within. just Jesus would be fine, either way, there's more play there then people think.
Reply:THANK YOU JESUS FOR THIS PERSON BEING BOLD ENOUGH TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS . PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO READ THE BIBLE FOR THEM SELF THEY WANT TO BELIVE ANY THING A PREACHER TELLS THEM
Reply:I am not going to read your sermon I have heard this discussed repeatedly, But being Baptized in the Father Son . And holy spirit is Biblical, I know you know where it is, But I would not say in the Name of Jesus will not work.


Getting to ceremonious about how what when and where is not necessary to Please God, it is your Faith that pleases God and with out faith you cannot please God, Abraham was Justified by faith, never heard of baptism.
Reply:Thank you for sharing this info.





Cordially,


John
Reply:Another one with a rant. Reported.
Reply:The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are all the same God. They are 3 seperate persons in the one God Head. They are inseparable. One does not act or do without the other 2. The 1 Tri-une God is all powerful.You are right in saying that people should be baptized in Jesus name. For there is no other name


Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Reply:Lot of info for nothing..



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